Sunday, April 04, 2021

Mother Passed Away!

 


My Mother, Vijaya Balasubramaniyam, 78, W/o. Late Dr TM Balasubramaniyam, Scientist, #CECRI, #Karaikudi, reached Paramacharya Feet, on 1st April, 2021, Thursday, 2am here at Malleswaram, Bangalore. The end was rather painless and sudden, after her 14 month struggle / ordeal of various health issues!!!

Cremation done same day, I didnt wait for any outstation relatives (Even Brother/ Sisters etc) due to COVID!!

Mother ritual update:-
1) I had been to Srirangapatinam for second day rituals on 2nd April, (130 Kms from Bangalore towards Mysore)for the immersion of the ash in river Cauvery,(ஸஞ்ஜயணம்). A fisherman helped me walk to to the middle of the river to immerse the remains in the midstream. (Good 100 feet in, chest heigh water). Cauvery river was gashing in full stream. I felt Mother's immersion was done better compared to father's immersion done at stagnant Cauvery at Trichy during Aug 2017.
2) We have decided to conduct all 13 days ceremony /rituals here at our home "AMRITKALA" Malleswaram as it would be convinient for outstation folks to land stratight in to Bangalore. (Karaikudi is 2 hours drive from Madurai or Trichy Airport). As to satisfy mother's never publicaly expressed desire to breathe her last at #Karaikudi and the cremations thereafter, Laltiha and I have decided to conduct the 27th, 45th day and 6th Month rituals, at Gayathri Niwas, Karaikudi (On 4th July, 2021, Gayathri Niwas would complete 50 years of existence)!!

3) I have commenced and completed the 1 to 4th day rituals. We have chosen the Vaidika Sabha near Sankey tank for sake of convinience to adher to protocols. Few of the rituals from 11th day shall be done at home also.

4) Calls are coming non stop from friends, relatives. I shall do my best call back all of them as I am busy with rituals/ organising.

Personally the grief/ emotion of her departure is yet to sink in for me...... I think it could be some days!( I could hold on for 3 days for Dad and then the sorrow dam broke!!)!!

I am thankful to hospital staff at Vikram Hospital Bangalore, CECRI, Karaikudi, medical staff and Cauvery Hospital Karaikudi, for their effort to do their best for her treatment over the past 3 years or so.
Karthik.





Wednesday, March 03, 2021

24 Hrs Post Vaccination!

 I am running slight temperature which fluctuates between 98.6 to 100! I am not taking any tablets to quell the same. I am also feeling plenty of eye irritation, body pain, and thirst. (As such I drink lot of water but this camelesque)! Also there is considerable pain in the vaccine jab spot! (No swelling/ Redness)!

I am glad that these symptoms are appearing to indicate that vaccine is beginning to do it's job and body its! 

I am taking things easy for the next 48 hours!! (May be cut down walk, excercise etc!)


Shall keep you updated.

My friends overseas are in marvel at India's vaccination drive!! Something to be proud! I personally feel the world owes a lot to Donald Trump! 


Tuesday, March 02, 2021

Vaccination first round done!

 I got my COVID Vaccination, first round done today at the Columbia Asia hospital, Yeswanthpur. It was quick process it took less than 5 minutes. There was 30 minute mandatory wait after the jab. The lady did a great job to make the jab as painless as possible. 

The secound round is after 28 days. The vaccine used was Covid Shield by Astra Zenecca. I am told there are still teething issues across hospitals and process is going slow. In fact, some hospitals that are listed have not yet commenced the programme even after 2 days. 




Karthik.


Monday, March 01, 2021

Vaccination Chaos!!!

Today Vaccination began for common Indians, I booked thro system. I should have known the mess that happens when millions go for the same on the first day. I am even piqued with myself, why I even tried the first day!!!  Result, chaos and I came back home cancelling the appointment! I Will try a slot tomorrow!!! The hospital staff don't know a printer from a scanner to upload documents to the server!!! Good news now a days my the nature to lose cool/temper has significantly come down! (Adam Grant Book I guess ahhahh!)!! I just grit and bear and came back home! 






Thursday, February 25, 2021

Business Travel in COVID WORLD (21-25th Feb)! It is RISKY!!!

Business Travel in COVID WORLD (21-25th Feb)! It is RISKY!!!


After 15 months, (Nov 2019) I decided to make business travel in the so called, post Covid world.  As calls have been coming, and it was getting tough to let go them, I decided at long last after 15 months of staying at home! (Twice did business assignment within Bangalore)  Sunday, 21st FEB 2021 until today (25th) to undertake Business travel.  I took the direct Indigo flight to Baroda and back. It is a 100 min flight. 

BLUFF:- I think the crowd and rush is so much that it is not worth the risk to carry out business travel, (more so outside Bangalore) esply from domestic travel for some more time until you are vaccinated. I met 3 people who had recovered from Covid, in Gujarat, and all had source from Wife, Children who had got some other disease (Dengue, Fever) and then these guys got infected during Hospital visit/vigil! Hospital appears a dangerous place. 

I decided to undertake this trip based on the experience of son and daughter, who had been to the USA, in the past 2 months, and were informing me that the airports are not all that crowded as were aircrafts occupancy, and it is ok to take up travel. The pictures they had sent also made me feel that it should be ok. Friends who traveled a bit  in domestic sector, a month back also informed the same status of thin crowd etc. 

21st Feb, also being Sunday, I thought the crowd should be usually less. I couldn’t have been more wrong. When I reached the airport, the line to get inside airport ,at both gangways ( 5 gates each) was miles long!! Being frequent traveler and knowing  the shortcuts and tricks  for access, I managed to make it through these gates in less time. (But passengers are struggling in the new covid world with Masks, Identification, etc.!!!)…..


Despite doing web check in and having Baggage drop tag with me, the line to drop bags at check in counter were good 100 people and there was no way I would have reached in time at gate if I waited my turn!  I got the baggage checked in through pay priority counter, and went for security check which was another 15 min or so with 100s of people in queue and no social distance between people anywhere. Yes, I did see almost 100% Masks being worn by people at every situation which is a positive aspect. I had also downloaded Arogyasethu app, on way to airport, but no one asked me. 

I was given Face Shield before boarding aircraft both ways, at boarding gate, the only saving grace was aircraft was less than half full with many seats empty. Seat besides mine was empty! The airline ground staff didn’t insist on me wearing shield during boarding, but I wore it as much as I can during the cruise mode.  With cloth mask and spectacles wearing shield, makes it very foggy as well as the Face shield visibility is not so great despite removing the plastic sheet fixed in it. It appears that there are two plastic sheets to be pealed off, I did remove one, may be that is the reason the visibility was not good! (I didn’t wear at all during return trip and so now it a souvenir!) 

The services inside flight were pretty good with good sanitization, cleanliness, and airline staff in full protection mode. Food items have become costly by 50% or so. 

At both Baroda and Bharuch where I spent 5 days, the mask compliance was outstanding, with 1 in 1000 person on street, missing a mask. The issue is massive crowd and lack of social distancing, as well as too much sneezing etc in hotels, etc when having food!! (Happened 2-3 times!) 

My conclusion is that I would now wait a good 4-5 months or so, post vaccination for resuming my  Business travel outside Bangalore. I feel with the Indian crowd, un-orderliness, rush as well as Hussle bustle besides jump the queue,  that are part of Indian systems ( You can’t do anything about it) it appears not a risk worth taking despite COVID cases being low or practically none as it is stated in media and newspapers!! It may take just one infected person to set the cat amongst pigeon especially in closed confined environment like Airport, Aircraft, trains and one has few situations where you have to let go mask to drink water or have food or use washroom etc. Also politics of suddenly introducing RT-PCR tests by states, at whim and will, with moment notice as condition of entry in to their state, over the past week is Business travel passenger's nightmare.(Where would you go in a strange place to get tested and await results besides, where is time!???!) 

In a country like India where you are on to yourself with no social protection net or financial support from any quarters, as Jack Ma said, it is best to be just alive in 2021 and so business can take a back seat for some more time with one making adjustments in their financial situation. 

PS: I shall be getting my COVID test done tomorrow(Friday) ! I guess I cant ignore with so much asymptomatics out there!!! 




Update Friday 26th, COVID tests both RT-PCR and Antigen tests done. Results by evening. 


Wednesday, February 03, 2021

Karen Carpenter; 38 years GONE!!!!

4th February, marks 38 years since Karen Carpenter left this world. She was less than 33 when she died in 1983. The music she dished out were mesmerising even today for her adored fans like me who grew up listening to her music through radio. I wonder how crazy we would have been with all the digital /on demand access!! All her numbers are just joy to listen. I leave with my top 3, not in that order. Karen was also a master drummer!!! 

1) Jambalya


2) Please Mr Postman ( I can relate this to my courship days 1990 hahhah)


3) I will say Goodbye love! Listen to the Guitar in the end, just stunning!! 


As a bonus I would also add, "Calling occupants of interplanatery Craft"!! 


Take care, god bless
Karthik

3rd FEB 2021. 

Tuesday, January 12, 2021

Back to Blogging! Logged off SM accounts.

 12th January 2020.


I have logged off from all social accounts as of this week, Twitter, Linkedin, Facebook. I shall also sign off from Whatsapp in a week's time as I feel all these platforms are leftist agenda and block conservative folks like me besides making us a product and selling our data and make a windfall.


So this now all back to Blogging the platform I was using 2003-07 before moving to social media. While I am also unhappy with GOOGLE too with their censorship, I would find an alternative platform in coming weeks and post update about the migration.


I am available on my email account at karaikudy@hotmail.com (Microsoft is not spoiled so far, lets see for how long!!!).


I shall be in Parler (Since taken down by Amazon), Telegram (How we support a Russian APP!!!) and Signal as messenger app, in my telephone number. 


Take care and keep in touch.

Regards

Karthik.
@karaikudy

Wednesday, August 12, 2020

Dad's 3rd Anniversary.

Today 12th August 2020, Wed, marks the 3rd Anniversary rituals of father, Dr T M Balasubramanian, as per Hindu calendar. English Date, 15th Aug 2017)! 


Time flies. I completed the rituals here in Bangalore. Would have wanted to go to Karaikudi and perform, but these are different times. Mother is here since January, so worked out well...! 


Karthik.


Sunday, August 26, 2018

John McCain.

#329
Very sad to wake up to the news of passing away of Senator John McCain aged 81(4 days short of his 82nd Birthday). 
He was a true patriot indeed. Despite being grandson and son of 4Star Admirals of US Navy, McCain refused to be given preferential release when captured in Vietnam war and tortured. 

I always wondered, if his selection of Sarah Palin derailed his efforts for the presidency in 2008!!

I was also positive that he would lose in Senate seat which he held since 1986 in Arizona during 2016 election, the campaign against him was bitter, but he managed to sneak a win. 

Coincidentally, his death comes exactly 9 years on the day his close friend Edward Kennedy with whom he championed the immigration Amnesty reform bill!!

May his soul rest in peace. Interesting, he has expressed his wish that President Trump should not participate in his funeral!! That is some bitterness!! I would think goes to show how much this President like our Stupid Idiot Modi has polarised the nation!!!

Karthik
26/8/18
830am. 


Wednesday, July 25, 2018

IKNiazi,FlopShow,Ozil,Marchionne.

#328
1) I am back from short trip to Gujarat. Boy, this year rains are like, mad, I have never seen such a spell in my 33 years of visits to Gujarat. Few days there was practically non stop rains and Sun was never seen. No wonder, the potholes were plenty in the Bombay-Amdavad NH!
2) I got in touch after 10 years with my German Colleague! I had travelled in his car from Frankfurt to Hamburg for a safety audit. This picture was taken then! I don't think I ever experienced that speed any other time! BOY!!
3) Near Gate 52, Terminal 2, Mumbai airport, there is an awesome Marati restaurant. Enjoyed the food out there during Lunch pit stop before boarding the flight back home. 
4) I was passing by TheoBroma Pastry shop on way to gate, I quickly called and asked my daughter, if I should pick some pastry for my son. I was sceptical that he would want it as he is on crash diet etc. My daughter said, never mind Bring it on!! When he saw that,boy!!! oh Boy just delight as kid! Girls judge things perfectly!! hehehehhehe!!!

Today elections in Pakistan, a rare event in a sense transition to democracy would happen through a democratic process. Rarely, this happens as Military always intervenes in a coup and never allows the Prime Minister to complete his term. I expect Imran Khan to be the leading party and possibly the next Prime Minister of Pakistan. I see relations between India and Pakistan not improving in his tenure. Let's see!!!

A movie taken by spending 110Mn$ in China, became super flop grossing 7 Mn $ in 3 days and is taken off screen for remake. China products are questionable quality!! Didn't realise movies too!!! hahahahah!!! 

As they say Success is Bastard, Failure is an Orphan. The case of Mesut Ozil,who is made a scapegoat for the disgraced German exit from world cup is a classic example. As he and Lukaku says, When we score /win, we are Belgian or German, when we lose we are Congolese or Turkish! Sad aspect of racism prevailing in many countries!! I agree that comes to fore when failure hits!! Human nature I guess! 

Sad to hear the passing away of Sergio Marchionne, the boss of Fiat /Chrysler!! End was swift today!! May his soul rest in peace. What a turn around! But he was a workaholic.


As usual, few memes and Modi Bashing!! hahahahhahahh!!! 



An Aeronautical Engineer inspecting a Rafale fighter jet in order to increase it's price from 520 cr to 1600 cr to utilize taxpayers money. (2018)

A Globetrotter Searching Croatia on Map for his next Visit. (2018)

Until next week, take it easy, take care.
Karthik
25/7/18
1800 Hrs. 

Saturday, July 14, 2018

Deluge,Eritraia,AbiyAhmed,Croatia.

#327
Housekeeping:-
1) Today, I complete 5 years of staying away from Idiot Box for watching stupid, ugly, lousy, fucking, Indian News channels and Entertainment! Even saying III class is a disgrace! Boy!! I can't comprehend how people are putting up with all the shit that is dished out!!

2) Friday, I was invited as panel member for Safety event, at 5pm, and I posted a Selfie, Radhu says, I looked "DOPED" Do I???? hahaahhah!!
3) Mom is back in India after her 2 month stay in #OMAN! The clean air around there has helped her respiratory issues to the minimum! Of course 45C heat is another matter for to be there!! 

Credit to Donald Trump, once again when it comes to national interest, he puts aside his personal like'/dislike. In choosing Judge Brett Kavanugh as his second nominee for US Supreme Court, #SCOTUS, Trump has looked for a person who abides to constitution as it says rather than looking for personal interpretation. It is no secret that Trump loathes the Bush(es) and Judge K was Bush nominee to Circuit court in DC as well as his wife was personal secretary to "Dubiya!!! The confirmation hearing would be interesting given that the razor thin Majority republicans hold with John McCain wont be able to vote. I personally sense, over a period of time Roe Vs Wade, the landmark judgement would be eroded away one statute at a time and come 2023, the 50th anniversaty there would be nothing left. Also to note that Trump with 2 year of Presidency left has potential for 2 more nominations (Senate Majority Key) of conservative leaning with Ginsburg and Breyer in to their 80s can fade from the scene!! Already with 5-4 that can turn to 7-2 with ramifications for good 2-3 generations to come. (#SCOTUS is for life or option to retire as Justice Anthony Kennedy did) 

The Roberts Court, 2017 Back row (left to right): Elena KaganSamuel AlitoSonia Sotomayor, and Neil Gorsuch. Front row (left to right): Ruth Bader GinsburgAnthony KennedyChief Justice John RobertsClarence Thomas, and Stephen Breyer

The Rains have caused havoc across nations, with Hiroshima prefecture having seen it's worst rainfall of 50cm and loss of lives of around 200. People say in their living memory they have never witnessed anything like this. The mad rainfall of 15 Cm in 3 hours in Nagpur, and 55% Monsoon within 3 weeks of commencement at Bombay are tell tale signs of Climate change warnings that have been ignored by leaders. Adding insult to injury is the lack of preparation as well as poor III class infrastructure that exist. I am told in Bombay nothing has been done since British time in drainage system as city can take only 1 inch of rain/hr. All the natural creek that let rain water to the sea has been encroached by land sharks. This is case in most urban area in India. The warning is out there!!! No one cares and people suffer!!!

During my global travel, I have met Indians who have settled in Eritrea, a tiny nation which has been on war with its neighbour, Ehiopia for decades. People said the war would never end and there would never be peace. It appeared so, until the new President of Ethiopia, Abiy Ahmed, who out of nowhere worked all political reforms that could only be a dream. He even reached out to the neighbour and now peace accord is worked out! Showing all it takes is a leader to swing things around. Also Ethiopian economy a fastest growing one goes to show peace is a must! 
Ethiopia's Abiy Ahmed is welcomed by Eritrea's Isaias Afwerki as he disembarks the plane in Asmara, Eritrea on July 8, 2018
World cup is coming to an end, what a sporting event it has been! All top teams sent packing! France a young team under Tidier DesChamps (3rd person possibly to win world cup as player/coach) and Croatia an rank outsider are clashing. An Interesting article in WSJ on how Croatia win would settle scores as western Europe sees East with lot of contempt and insult! 

As usual I leave with few memes:-
1) JIO UNIVERSITY 

Take it easy, take care
Karthik
14/7/18
9am.

Tuesday, July 03, 2018

Miracle,Amlo,Netflix,SocialMedia_tax

#326
Housekeeping:-
1) I have been posting updates on Facebook,this was a hectic week of celebrations and events. Those who dont have FB access. This week was 1) Lalitha's birthday 2) Shravan's too and Father in law's 81st Birthday celebrations at Trichy.

Few pictures:-

2) Son and I took late evening time at Trichy to climb Rock fort temple. It was 450 steps (few steep) to reach the top of this 1600 Year old hillock which has Ganesh and Shiva deity placed on top. The rocks according to information displayed there are 35 Million years old. Astonishing. The construction at that time makes you wonder how they did what they did. 
3) With World cup fever on, my Semi Final predictions are Belgium, France, England and Croatia. Let's compare notes!!

What a news to wake up this morning on the finding of 12 Kids of football team and their coach trapped for 9 days in Thailand cave in which they got trapped due to flooding. The efforts to find them captured the world's imagination. Best in class technology and equipment were put in to use for this international effort. Goes to show prayers, miracle do happen to keep faith on human support. I am reminded of the Chile Miner's rescue back in 2010 October. 

Met the Man who swept the Mexican Elections. AmloAndrés Manuel López Obrador) winning the election was foregone conclusion in the most violent election in modern day memory with more than 130 candidates and political workers and associated people killed in election releated violence. (Reminds me of 1989 election here, most violent in Indian History) He is Grandfather of Corbyn way of extreme left thinking. He has promised a lot! Let's see how he fulfils them. Last week, Colombia has elected a  Right of centre President, the elections cant be too contrasting. Shows the world drifting from center.  

This week Economist cover is on NETFLIX! Who would have even imagined 5 years back that this is going to take world by storm. I recollect couple of years back my kids switching to Netflix services and sitcom dished out! This is now bigger than Disney, Universal etc! Like Amazon so far no Profits! But I guess they would get there given the content it is delivering tailoring the regional requirements.

It was pathetic to read that Uganda has introduced 5c a day tax to use Social Media after due registration. The government says this has come in to effect after rumours and mud slinging in the name of freedom of expression. What a nonsense logic? I hope our Stupid Buggers here in India don't copy paste such stupid thinking! But then Mo(sa)di hai Bhai!! hahahh!!

As usual few meme to leave on laughing note!





Take it easy, take care, God Bless
Karthik
3/7/18
9am.

Sunday, June 24, 2018

Demon,Erdogan,Melania,WomenDrivers!

#325
Housekeeping:- 
1) Dell has put its kiosk at Orion Mall for the New Laptop (XPS 13). I showed Pamphlet to my son. He says he has ordered even a later generation of the model from #USA which has reached India this week. I wonder, looks like, other than Cinema,nothing that gets released in USA comes to India same week.


2) World cup 2018 is an awesome event, 28 matches still no 0-0 Result. Lot of surprises!! I am yet to watch a 1130pm match!! Too much effort to be awake, especially when I get up at 515am. I feel that there will be a new winner who has not won before. Here is a joke on football!!! hahhahahhah!!!!

It's in our Indian culture to not touch anything with our feet!!!!

Otherwise we would have been no 1 in football⚽!!
😜😄
But we love to pull others legs ... So that's why we are  No. 1 in kabaddi..😂😂😄


I keep saying, Demonisation of the Stupid MODI and his goons government is most fraudulent act by any government anywhere. Everyday stories of people affected are coming out! One more heart wrenching story is in Bangalore. Real estate guy kills wife and seriously injures family!! Thuglaq Modi is a right name!!! Also stories coming out on Amitshah's act of Old 500 Rupee notes deposited in Bank in which he is a Director. Clean BJP ----> MY ASS!!!

What is common to Putin, Modi, Trump and Erdogan!!! They are all asshole showmen with all gas and no actions to show their success. They are very good at managing the TV without giving a Flying FUCK to the Fridge.Yes, Trump does better on that to deliver some of the election promises! Erdogan is facing stiffest challenge to his 15+ years of autocracy. Would Turks see sense Today and vote in such a way so that he doesn't get sweeping powers to make Turkey an Islamic Republic! I hope so! Kurds hold the key, I guess!!! 

Hahhahah!! Melania is back, ( so she is alive and kicking after all the rumors) her Jacket is the controversy! I would say not a very wise move to wear that one, when you go to visit Children separated from their parents in a detention centre! I wonder who advises her??? hmmm!

Today Saudi Arabia joins as last the civilised nations that allows its women to sit behind the wheel and drive! This goes to show change is slowly happening there. MBS might face resistance, but he must be cautious that power corrupts! I hope is a sane man to see it! But at the same time, it gives a perspective of what is assumed as mundane activity in many parts of the world is a big challenge in few pockets. We must be thankful to our founding fathers to see our nation with a quite a lot of vision ahead to work the rules/laws/constitution which gives women their right. I always feel Men and women are never equal, can never be, each is set to work few set of tasks which the other can never even dream doing!! hmmmm!!!



First World Problem:- 
hahahah
Until next week, take it easy, take care...
Karthik
24/6/18. 
9am. 

Sunday, June 17, 2018

KimJongWON,CEOShitheads,Fuckingdaring,PutinGoon!

#324
Housekeeping:-
1) I underwent CATARACT Surgery this week. Procedure done and dusted 30 min at Karthik Nethralaya. Dr Ravindra, a 35 year veteran in the field did an awesome & painless job.While walking in terrace yesterday,as it was raining, Lalitha covered my head with my Handkerchief!! When I posted the picture in Whatsapp group, the EID Mubarak greetings as response,were astounding!! Many times,I joke to strangers that I am a Muslim (in Urdu, Of course) and Lalitha is an Iyer Maami and we eloped!People believe it and are in shock until Lalitha pricks my lie bubble!!! ehehhehhe!!!

2) Speaking of rains, it has been pouring non stop everyday evening from 5 to 8pm thus hindering my walk in the evening / listening to podcasts! The Rainbow was awesome! Nature has its own way of manifesting its beauty! Only now a days we don't have time for it!

The Trump-Kim meeting produced its own share of news, views, Meme!! hahah!!! Kim Jong Won was classic cover of Economist!! Needless to say, Kim got the legitimacy that has been missing to his Grandfather and Father. I am not sure how much of bargain he would keep up! Trump has risked his presidency! But knowing Trump Flip Flops! He would shrug and move on should the deal fail!  Singapore played a perfect role as host to bridge the two leaders! They did a fabulous job, no doubt!


Singapore Cabinet meeting Trump!! 4 of key ministers were of Tamil Origin! Modi Mudevi wont take any one from South, (English  வராதே) except Gujjus!! So much complaint / dissent brewing on his Gujaratisation at Delhi (Whether they capable altogether another matter!!)  hehehehehhehehehheh!!!!
Balakrishnan, Kim, Kung ( education minister) 
It was heartening to read that CEOs are now taken to task for employee Suicides! France always sets the bar in employee assistance program. This week ex CEO of Orange is sued for the depression and other harassment related suicides in 2008 during economic meltdown! Overall, CEOs now a days are sucking up to board members, and cant show any hint of dissent! (When they cant show dissent to their fucking wife how the fuck they wd do in public?- political correctness is now the order of the day) I cant remember one CEO of note in the last 10 years!! Horror word is very kind to these filthy bastards! India!! oh don't tell me! Spineless fellows!! One Cyrus Mistry had a bit of dissent; he was booted out! Candour wont carry you far in 2018! 

Watch this Video! If this is not  Daring" Super catch in mid air", nothing is!! 

With Football on, We have long nights and interesting matches! Here is a great Video on VAR, the newly introduced Technology! This got France the Penalty which Referee otherwise missed.

Some Football Memes
It's hard to win against Russia when you know your Family Members are being held hostage somewhere.

Miss Messi Hhehehhe!!

Take it easy, take care, stay safe.
Karthik
17/6/18 11am.